Derrick, they may find a use for ForthDD displays intended for the F-35 Helmet but it looks to me as if there is a realization that switching out the legacy display would engender added costs as well, so...

Kevin Dede

Last question for me. Could you just review the F-35 time line, production time line, again? When -- I mean I understand you're shipping displays now, but clearly it's not full production.

Jeffrey Lucas

Yes, sure. I can talk to that a little bit. So we are continuing to provide them displays for what's called IOC, our initial operational capability stage, and we're anticipating that those shipments are going to continue into early next year. We are now actually working on the production readiness development mode, and so far, our work is actually progressing ahead of plan. And that's allowing actually for some scheduled compression, which the primes are quite pleased about. So that's moving ahead. We anticipate production, limited-rate initial production, for us beginning probably around the fourth quarter of '20 into the first quarter of 2021. So that's actually progressing quite -- that program for us is progressing quite nicely.