I feel sorry for them. Hard to listen. When asked to name any other customers he says Realware and F-35 and helicopters but not sure what Program, he says Apache but we know better on that score. Everything is "I think" but he doesn't know. describes NGSW but can't remember the name of the Program. It's really time to hang up your spurs CC.

"Defense is our Sugar Daddy"? Wow. That after dissing the US Military on their previous CC say this?

Maybe that's the "New DoDs" preferred jargon.